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Stay Curious / Season One / Episode 02

The Grove

In Development · Not Yet Released

He doesn’t know why he’s there. That’s the point.

What happens in the rooms men are invited into?

Featuring Dale Sanders

The Story

Dale Sanders has spent much of his adult life inside rooms most people will never enter. The military. National security. Healthcare systems. Federal agencies. Executive suites. And, according to Dale’s own account, Bohemian Grove. He has built a life around information, evidence, systems and judgment. Then Craig Rose invites him to Camp Mary. And Dale has a problem. He doesn’t know why he is there. He says it. He jokes about it. He challenges the room. More than an hour after arriving, he still isn’t entirely sure what he has walked into. That uncertainty becomes the episode. Because The Grove is not really an investigation into Bohemian Grove. It is an investigation into rooms. Who gets invited. Who decides who belongs. What men perform when they enter powerful spaces. What they hide. What they inherit. What they are permitted to say. And what can happen when a completely different kind of room asks them to stop performing altogether. Dale enters as the audience surrogate. He does not need to believe Stephen Sedmak’s worldview. He does not need to accept every spiritual claim. He does not even need to understand what Camp Mary is. That is precisely why he matters. By the end, Dale does not emerge as a convert. He emerges with more questions. And one of the most important admissions in the series: “I really don’t know what to do with it all.” The Grove asks whether curiosity begins precisely where certainty ends.

Invitation — Why am I in this room?

Meet the People

The lives behind the story.

Dale Sanders

Healthcare Technology Pioneer / Systems Thinker

Military service, nuclear-threat analysis and a career in healthcare technology have shaped Dale’s instinct to ask for evidence. At Camp Mary, he brings that same scrutiny to a room unlike the ones he has spent his life entering.